Michael Schweitzer, M.D., F.A.C.S

Experience, low complication rate, excellent outcomes….this is not the time to go to any surgeon on an insurance list. Morbid Obesity Surgery is considered to be Major Abdominal Surgery. Laparoscopic approaches vary and so do the results. I was the first in the Mid-Atlantic area to perform Laparoscopic Gastric Bypass, and the first in Maryland/DC/Northern Virginia/ Delaware to perform Laparoscopic Lap-Band surgery.  I am also one of the first to perform Laparoscopic duodenal switch and sleeve gastrectomy.   I perform, teach and consult on laparoscopic obesity surgery.

 

 

 

 

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 Insurance

The number 1 issue is diet history! Some insurance companies require a recent diet history in the last 2 years. Some do not require it at all. If they do require recent dieting, it is usually 6 months of documentation and at least once a month visit in most cases.  If you can not figure out your policy please call your insurance company and our office for help. 

For example: Aetna requires 6 months of supervised diet in the last 2 years or 3 months of a comprehensive diet/exercise program ( the Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center has a 3 month program for Aetna patients).

Another Example: Blue Cross may accept 2 separate diet programs of 3 months each versus 6 months.  Some Blue Cross insurance plans may not require any recent diet program.

Links:

Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center

Aetna Morbid Obesity Policy (I use Aetna as an example since you can easily go to their web site for the policy, other insurers may also do this as well)

 

The 6 month diet history that is required by some insurance companies may require a doctors note from each visit or proof of attendance at Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, etc(cancelled check,etc..).  The Maryland law allows for weight watchers, Jenny Craig and other programs to count.  Some insurers require that it always be supervised by a physician.

If you are unsure then I suggest you start a supervised diet program with your physician (must include documented weights and counseling) or our weight management program even before your first visit.  Hopkins Bayview also has a once a month diet program that you may inquire about with our office staff.

Lastly, insurance companies are constantly changing the rules so it is important to check with your actual insurance company policy.

 

After your initial consultation and if you qualify, we will send a letter to your insurance company outlining why it is medically necessary for you to undergo morbid obesity surgery. Some of the qualifications include:

1.     You must have a body mass index of 40 or bmi 35 or greater with an obesity related significant medical problem

2.     You must have tried dieting in the past

3.     You must have a stable psychological profile (ex: if you are currently depressed then you will need to be undergoing treatment and deemed medically stable for surgery)

4.     You must accept that this is major surgery with major risks

5.     You should have a supportive family and/or friends

Many insurance companies require documentation of diets (some even require physician only supervised diets) that you will need to submit yourself to their claims department. It depends on the insurance company how many months of diets you need supervised. It is best to call them since they change over time. I also suggested that you make a typed list of every diet and exercise program you have every done in your lifetime along with the increase in your weight over time. You should also have your primary care physician write a letter of support and any other physician that will document losing weight will help relieve one of your medical conditions (for example: gastric bypass induced weight loss in approximately 85% of patients will resolve type II diabetes, therefore a letter from your PCP or even an endocrinologist stating your type II diabetes is related to your weight will be beneficial). Mail this to your insurance company along with a brief letter stating why you feel it is medically necessary for you to have surgery. You are your best advocate and by being involved it will be less likely denied then if you are not involved at all (I can not stress this enough). You should keep copies of everything and ask for names when talking to representatives. Please be patient since it can be a long process. It is a good idea to call your insurance company 3 weeks after your initial visit to see if they received our letter.

After your initial visit and before surgery you will need to see our dietician and psychiatrist..

There is a Maryland law covering obesity surgery but if you have a plan that is self-insured (your card may say for example Aetna but the plan may be self insured and so call your benefits office to find out) or the employer has under 50 employee’s then it falls under federal guidelines and they can exclude if the want to. You can find more info at www.obesitylaw.com . Please realize just because you can get authorization but it is not a covered benefit they will not pay. You should also realize that they may tell you they will not pay unless deemed medical necessary but that is okay since that is the only reason anybody undergoes obesity surgery and this just means you must first see me in consultation. Clarify with the insurance personally that if it is deemed medically necessary then it is a covered benefit. This is the purpose of us sending a letter to your insurance carrier.

 

 .****If you have Out-of-Network option with your health plan and I am not In-Network you still have the right to see me. You paid for the Out-of-Network option (ex:PPO, POS, HMO with out of network, 2 tier, 3 tier, etc..), and therefore, do not let an insurance representative tell you otherwise. ******

 

Deductible

The policyholder must pay this amount of money per plan year before insurance will start to provide any payments.

Example: Mary must pay $500 a year (per person) deductible before her insurance will start to pay for some or all of her medical expenses.

Co-pay

Many policies require a co-pay with each visit (surgery, hospital admission, ER, and others may also have a co-pay depending on your policy). It may be as little as $5.00.

Indemnity or Coinsurance

A policy may require you to pay a certain amount of the medical bill after the deductible and co-pay. Point of service (POS) and PPO policies allow you to go out-of network but usually not at full coverage. HMO will not usually cover out of network expenses beyond their discount payment to the surgeon (you need to ask). You must find out if your surgeon is in-network or out-of-network. 

 

 

 

Example: Mary’s gastric bypass was done at an in-network hospital but with an out-of network surgeon whose fee is $5500. After meeting her deductible for the year she has 80% coverage by the insurance company for the customary charge of the surgeon’s fee. She will be responsible for the 20% and anything over the customary charge. If the insurance company tells her the customary charge is $5000 then she will be responsible for 20% plus the $500 difference. The customary charge represents what the insurance company deems is the usual charge in the community. This is not the amount the insurance pays for an in-network physician or HMO payment. You must call and ask specifically what is the customary charge for the surgeon’s fee associated with that surgery (you will need the CPT code for that surgery*****this is where you need to argue that the customary charge or fee is higher than the discount payment to in-network doctors. You can tell them you called the other Bariatric Surgeon's offices in Maryland, Virgina District of Colombia and Delaware for their charges and their data (insurance company's data) is wrong. You should only do this if they under-reimburse you, meaning you have to let the normal process take place first. If you feel they under-reimbursed you and your phone calls/letters do not produce answers then try to get your Human resources representative involved or your insurance broker. You paid extra for out-of-network benefits and so you are entitled to use it and get reimbursed properly. Another resource is the state insurance commissioners office***).

Maximum Out-of Pocket Expense

Many PPO and POS plans have a maximum out-of-pocket expense for the customary charges in that plan year.

Example: John’s surgeon charges $3000 for a gallbladder removal. He has a maximum out-of-pocket expense of $1000 per year that includes deductible and coinsurance. His co-insurance covers 60% and his deductible is $500 but he will only have to pay $1000 total since that is his maximum and the insurance company stated to him that the customary charge for a gallbladder is $3000.

 

Please Call Your Insurance Company!!!

You need to know if deemed medically necessary does your plan cover morbid obesity surgery You should find out your:

1)Deductible

2)Co-pay

3)Out-of-Network benefit for the surgeons fee

4)Co-insurance (ex:80/20 or 70/30, etc)

5)Maximum out-of-pocket expense (ex: $1000)

6)If you are in a HMO and surgeon is out of network what will they cover? They may since wait list are long and if you agree to the difference in surgeons fee the hospital and anesthesia are covered since they are in-network in most cases.

You will need to know the CPT codes the surgeon will bill (see below)

43644Laparoscopic RNY Gastric Bypass

43770 Laparoscopic Lap Band code

There is no specific laparoscopic Duodenal Switch with BPD cpt code currently in place so when calling your insurance company tell them 43659 & 43845 (open duodenal switch with bpd code).

There is no specific laparoscopic sleeve gastrectomy cpt code currently in place so when calling your insurance company tell them 43659 & 43843

43659 – unlisted laparoscopic stomach code (we submit a letter with the open and laparoscopic code but will bill in most cases using the unlisted laparoscopic code)

43846 – Open RNY Gastric Bypass

43848 – Revision from a vertical banded gastroplasty to  RNY Gastric Bypass

 

***All of this above is subject to change, it is therefore important that you ask your insurance company directly along with asking us after your initial consultation. *********************************************

Michael Schweitzer, M.D., F.A.C.S.

Associate Professor of Surgery

The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine

Director of Minimally Invasive Bariatric Surgery

Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center

Department of Surgery

4940 Eastern Avenue

Baltimore, MD 21224

Phone: 410-550-3345

email DrSchweitzer@yahoo.com

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